Returned from a walk. Listened to the voice memos recorded in Las Cruces
last year, finished transcribing the whole month of October, when I was
surrounded by family, having conversations with parents and others, the
recorded placed upon the table. The conversations are not interesting
themselves but there are allegorical narratives which arise. I'm not
yet convinced that I can sacrifice the time and attention to transcribe
them all, but I want to keep them in mind as a possibility for use as
some kind of supplemental scenario, an acting out of dialogue in some
obscure section of the opera. Just because the conversations were had
doesn't mean that I have to make any more of them than what they are,
or were. There are some embarassing moments that I would rather not be
revealed - and are not particularly revealing of anything in
themselves - but there is also some meta-level commentary/analysis that
emerges in my listening ear while sifting through them, for example,
recognizing how poor of a listener I can be, how distracted or
self-interested, even though I was in NM in order to concentrate and
focus. I was often intoxicated and smoking cigarettes and not feeling
well, not attending to my own well-being but sliding back into old
habits, which made for a difficult summer - the psychological root of
this difficulty is what seems significant, if anything. Another option
could be to funnel the audio recordings into some auto-dictation
software to see what is recognized, what is left behind, what is
misinterpreted, and what beautiful monstrosities might emerge from the
coarse AI scoring.
I also listened to the final lecture of a four part series presented by
Bruno Latour. I have heard enough at this point to recognize that I must
deeply consider his ideas sooner rather than later - I downloaded two of
his texts and will begin purusing them. I'm especially interested in
his correlation of Gaia to opera, leading me to believe that he is
entertaining a similar practical methodology to the composition of his
actor-network theories as I am to the OOFKAUU. Perhaps more to his
technique than to his content then will BL becomes essential to my own
endeavor.
The importance of compiling this text into a document, by a certain
deadline: before leaving for the roadtrip in August. This will be an
intensive time with ___ which I must be present for and focus upon.
Today I watched a film based on Heidegger's tool-being and was reminded
of a key element correlating philosophy with craft: the importance of
PRAXIS, living taking precident over theorizing. Tool making and
description connected to the articulation of a subjectivity defined by
its relations to the world of objects, a relational emergence of
meaning, through their use rather than detached contemplation.
Authenticity: a movement towards a second phase (of concentration) in
the opera, my life trajectory, and (presumably) my personal
relationships - a movement towards collecting, tooling, making as an
embodiment of praxis. This is related to my current meditations upon the
necessity of erecting a system which can contain my own activities as I
move forward into the speculative space of creation, a container for my
experiences. Eventually I will be able to walk and talk and dictate and
transcribe within a single day, to stay on top of the experience,
awareness, and articulation of new ideas as they emerge as well as have
them represented in a document which can be referred to later, but more
so serves as the goal of the idea itself: the project as an act of
thinking, or thinking-through-action. Reading as a process of exercising
attention, note-taking becoming notation of active awareness, recording
time (through audio/video) as a mode of marking back upon time itself,
etc. I need to compile a bibliography and become more rigorously
studious in my research methods. I need to remain strictly organized as
I begin amassing the archives of music production - soon the piano and
other instruments will arrive and music will begin proliferating quite
organically, but as it accumulates I must be sure to apply a process of
sifting and sorting in order to maintain an awareness of what I am
striving for and what is most essential. The same for video: once the
screens and lighting arrays are collected and I begin the process of
seeing-through the camera on a daily basis time will very quickly fill
harddrives and attention spans, so I must have a system to facilitate
this process. The website as meta-container must be continuously
reconsidered, a syncronization of these various media interests, to
automatically collate the material into means of access and archive, as
simply presented as possible. The website is currently a depository for
what has already been made, but it must be modified to adapt to new
materials in real time, as it is being produced, LIVE. I need my own
server, my own cloud, my own private storage that can be uploaded to and
accessed from anywhere/everywhere: a very worthwhile investment. Text
could be uploaded to a blog, to be time/date-stamped and tagged and made
to be navigatable through streamlined menus. Sounds could also easily be
collected and organized: away from the restrictions of "user-friendly"
services designed by others. I want my (web)site to be a convergence of
these experiences, even imposing one form upon another: text being
displayed in transparent containers with videos serving as background
and automatically loaded song files playing over top: automatic
web-based cinema constantly changing as I continuously upload various
elements, so that the viewers access time determines the experience they
will have. The site could be just videos: perhaps displayed as a "video
wall" where invidual clips are made daily/regularly based on a
preconceived formula, ie: music of that day is the soundtrack, text is
the subtitles, videos are ongoing compilations of live edits and found
footage gleaning or studies of movement and arrangements of stagecraft.
The site will be an archive of this ongoing video work, like a dynamic
essay, essential in the articulation of performing the text components
through existential spotlight. All this should be attended to through
the autumn and winter, so that when spring returns I can have this
architecture fully erected and can turn my focus yet again towards new
conceptual horizons to challenge and reinforce the conceptual fundament,
culminating and solidifying during next years EGS session. During EGS I
can continue to make videos, capture sound, text documents, etc., and
have an appropriate receptical already in place to contain and
distribute this content to my peers - and most importantly to have
something to show faculty and other interested parties! To turn
attention away from the fundamental an upon all the minutae of the
flow - to allow the opera to begin writing itself. New experiments in
media: fig rig and lighting installation possibilities for cinema, image
manipulation through algorithmic software for AI recognition,
incorporating alien POVs, computer programming languages becoming
naturalized into human (character) speech), augmented and virtual
reality OOO via experimental user headsets, archive-cinema-criticism
mentality via Zizek, architectural modeling through 3D rendering
software, CAD + Paramatricism + amphibean design, visual arrays of
philosophical models via Fynsk via Heidegger. Don't forget, there's
also a shit load of reading to do! I can't spend 100% of my time navel
gazing: there's a bibliography to be compiled and (eventually) a PhD
dissertation to write! Associations need to be indexed now as the
project begins to unfold, and the website can be a place where I can tag
and hypertext my research and footnotes, a dynamic bibliography linked
to other sites, as dynamic as my focus/attention.
7.29.17
CONVERSATION WITH A MOUNTAIN GOAT
... Had a really intense, frightening experience, a grizzly bear, it
was the strangest thing because two things happened quite instantly
which seem notable, even in that moment: this phrase "black foot" came
to mind and I realized that Glacier National Park is surrounded by the
Black Foot Indian Reservation - that was interesting - and also how much
it was, not quite like this, but it felt like encountering a person, the
way that my body was responding, it was like walking into someone's
room while they were naked and oooooh!
You were intruding upon someone else's personal territory...
Totally intruding, like walking into the bathroom on somebody, trying to
leave but there's not door.
Did you see the bear?
We were hanging out. First I heard the two bare cubs running up the
tree - literally running vertically on the tree, going up, which was a
shocking experience!
Must be an instinctual fight-or-flight mechanism, to immediately move to
the high ground...
To scope things out... the mom was telling them to get up there... but
the way they moved up the tree was really shocking, like they were
running while going up, the agility...
Grappling hooks for hands!
They were up 30-40 feet like that (snaps fingers) and those cubs are
sizeable creatures. The agility of those creatures was very impressive,
so I was like "oh my god, ok, I am clearly not as agile." And then I
was brought into a song - my instinct was to just start singing - so I
was like hey momma I'm here... I'm gonna give you all the time...
you need... just doing this sing-song thing, because it felt like...
I just sat there on my knees and was watching this momma bear breaking
open huge logs with her paws.
Was she aware of you?
Clearly aware...We were all in the same space together.
Did you see the breaking of the logs as symbolic, as signs being sent to
you by the bear? Intimidation?
At first I thought that, but then I saw that she was eating termites.
Every few minutes she would raise up and look at me, and I would raise
up my voice... ok momma... it's ok... and she would go back, stand
up on her hind legs and go booofff shatter a log and get in there to
eat ants and termites and things. We were just hanging out - I mean it
wasn't hanging out, but she allowed me to observe her doing her thing,
and after 20 minutes or so she sent a call to the babies who very
reluctantly came down, always looking at me, got down on the ground and
stood up on their hind legs to look at me, and then they all walked off.
There was something about the personhood - not the personhood of an
animal, but something so much more complex going on. My only reference
for dealing with the situation was of intruding upon someone's private
space and having to be there, that's what it was like. There was
something more than her being a person, she had an equal presence for
sure, but not as a person... something else was going on that was kin
to a human being... it wasn't just her size, which was like me, more
bulky and hunched over, and I kept thinking that if she was a grizzly
bear she would be four times as big, and if it was a grizzly bear I
would have been so incapacitated...
What about the sense of danger as it was? Did you feel that you were in
danger?
For a few minutes, I had to acclimate, but there was something about the
song that emerged through my talking that provided a handle - a loose
grip but still a handle - on the scenario. If it were a grizzly I would
have had no handle. The scale was important. I kept judging her size,
considering the distance and other objects in sight, the scale of the
animal was a major part of the experience, judging it constantly...
If the mother bear had attacked you, chosen to perceive you as a threat,
perhaps due to her not being able to forgive your encroachment upon her
territory or not recognizing your song to be a peaceful one, if she
heard your song and misinterpreted it due to some colloquial
misunderstanding or miscommunication - because you are front different
worlds, civilization and the forest - or whatever it happened to have
been based on how Momma conceived of the world, do you feel that you
would have been prepared to take on that confrontation?
In the moment, not knowing how it would have panned out, because she's
a formidable animal, but it didn't feel like that, wasn't necessarily
part of the equation of being there. I don't know...
I can appreciate that you didn't feel it at the moment, but in terms of
the vulnerability we were describing earlier, the importance of taking
the initiative of making oneself vulnerable... to frame it as an
inquiry, I wonder about one's capacities to remain confident while
remaining vulnerable, the present of hubris while positioning oneself
tentatively...
I always forget the definition of hubris, what is this?
Hubris is the predominance of will, a kind of excess of the self... to
feel as though you have (gasp)... what is that!?
Hmm some interesting colors there.
Damn that's a big spider!
Ooooooh!
Did it jump?
No.
Did it move quickly?
It moved very quickly!
I bet she'll go right into that jar.
Yeah because I'm gonna put it right on top of her so she doesn't have
any say in the manner... oooh! C'mon girl, get on there... You know
I'm an arachnophobia right?
Are you? I can tell!
It's my only irrational fear.
It's gonna go right through that crack. Do you have a piece of paper?
Yes... Being an arachnophobia is totally irrational, the only phobia I
experience, and I can't say that I would have a very clear
understanding of what a phobia was - or felt like - if I didn't have to
continuously deal with this one. I can say with confidence that this is
a phobia because it makes no fucking sense for me to be unnerved by
such a small being, such a tiny creature! OOOH! But I'm telling you
that AH!... I'm telling you it's a formal fear, has to do with the
movement and the shape of spiders specifically, the speed and gestalt of
this creature, the geometry of the legs... I've thought about this a
lot - I've been an arachnophobia my whole life, so I think about where
it comes from and how to rationalize it - believing that by
rationalizing it I might overcome its grip, surpass its influence,
but it is a phobia because it is not rational, more archetypal, an image
imprinted upon my psyche... maybe you could psychoanalyze it, I choose
not to... maybe I endured a traumatic spider bite as a kid that I
can't consciously recall but affects me this way, or maybe it was
because there were a lot of spiders in my house in Corona. I have this
memory of being there as a child, sleeping in my bed at night facing a
bedside table with a glass on it full of water, and one evening I woke
up to witness a spider which had fallen in to the glass of water,
apparently crawled up the side and slipped in and was swimming circles
in the glass, and the movement of the ripples, seeing the legs so
clearly flailing in the clear liquid, the image disturbed me so much
that I couldn't bare to do anything about it. I couldn't save the
spider, I couldn't kill the spider, I couldn't touch the glass that it
was drowning in, I chose to just watch it swim circles, and I woke up
the next morning and it was still swimming, and I returned the next
night and there it was still swimming... it took days for this creature
to die a slow, probably horrible, certainly incredibly traumatic
death...
Right there next to you while you were sleeping, who knows what that was
doing...
I think I became intertwined with that drowning being.
Spiders have been so important for the mythologies of ancient peoples
and there must be a reason for that.
The stories and the people are intertwined, the images and the
creatures, and our beings...
I remember histories of the spider interacting with dreams... Ok I
think we just pick this up now... and we will release it...
Thank you for your assistance.
Intriguing that this happened during this precise moment of our
conversation...
Yeah, concerning fear in relation to animal beings, considering
vulnerability and recognizing territorial limits...
I haven't thought this through yet, but to continue to what we were
discussing... The bear brought out my own bear-ness, and what I thought
was going to be a very traumatic experience became something else
entirely when it happened. When you have a practice-based idea of
something the unknowable aspects are the things that occur, that's the
inevitability of ideas that come from direct experience - at least they
should. If you have a new experience and it is as you thought it would
be, something is going wrong there. Rationally it makes sense that a new
experience would create a new way to think about that experience. In
thinking about this phobia-oriented geometry of a thing which instigates
an uncontrollable response, it makes me remember this EMDR practice,
this bilateral unlocking traumatic memories through eye movement,
reforming the symmetry of a thought as it's unfolding within you by
amplifying parts of the body, and I've been studying mandalas, how
they're made in regards to something as simple as focused eye movement
and their potential to unlock new neural physiologies leading toward new
concepts, new ways to get to a concept, the mandala is a maze for the
eye that leads one towards enlightenment, to put it simply. I've also
really been trying to focus upon the roots of words and was quite
shocked to realize that the word astral is in disaster... something
that helps me remember that optimism in a necessary muscle in being this
thing that I am, that when you can connect the inevitable trauma of
being a terrestrial thing to something like a natural disaster and
realize that the word has come from a concept implying an ill-placed
star, a bad star... This need to conclude everything with the
apocalypse in a rational way seems like a recent occurrence, the
inherent end of everything which seems like a way - in academic
circles, or within the stronghold of this concept of the anthropocene -
there's been some faulty wiring it seems like in associating concepts
to words.
The concept of the anthropocene is not so strong though, but seems to me
to be very tentatively placed, and highly debated, and misunderstood to
the extent that it is articulated through multiple languages which are
not in agreement, and really is not so important - by which I mean this
problematic theory is not describing something so succinctly but merely
indicating the possibility of moving beyond a certain arbitrarily framed
epoch of knowing to enter into another, which is a mythology that seems
to be perpetuated by all the disciplines... perpetuating the myth of
the end of our current time to entertain the hope of gaining a new
concept of time. There's a lot there, to what you just unpacked,
regarding trauma and the location and description of trauma being rooted
in a specific language - although I disagree that the contemplation,
rumination, meditation upon, or integration back into a discourse of
ends or "the end" is a new occurrence, and see it rather as a
universal and eternally returning story. Any contemplation of beginning,
or being as an indication of the present, necessitates a prior and
posterior - at least concerning the beginning of time - what has
happened defines what is happening which defines how we can conceive of
what will come next, or in some cases what we imagine will happen will
manifest how we unfold the story of the past, and regardless of the
orientation both sides of the frame elucidate the present, a state of
affairs which I take to be a kind of connective tissue between
cosmological, teleological, theological, and philosophical ideas - it's
the framing structure of concepts, or the natural language of time
itself, depending on how far we want to take it. We could extend the
frame to empirical science, physics or hard sciences of making-sense, or
phenomenology, or psychology, or other "soft" sciences of sensation.
"Disaster" perhaps evokes more or less specific qualia of catastrophe
depending on what disciplinary context we pull up around it, "to what
end" we contemplate an "ultimate end" - is it merely an abstract
delineation of time, or is it a specific end, your end, as a person, as
an entity? Our end, of humanity, of a particular or general civilization
or culture, of an epoch or conceptualization of time, like the
anthropocene? Is it the ending as a sign, mark, punctuation - like a
period on a sentence, a caesura to our articulations, the ending of our
conversation, bringing about the end... In terms of an ecological
disaster, which certainly seems to be a hot debate searing holes through
the tongues of contemporary philosophy, and anthropologists also...
Certainly, and even outside of academia... when I speak to people my
age, I sense a certain requirement for accountability, or
responsibility - and not in the more delicious compounding of
response-ability, which I'm very interested in and how it connects to
the conventional "responsibility" - but this other need for people to
take account for some idea of "poor human behavior." There's so much
energy put into politics and race, ecology, that's all about advocating
for the need to acknowledge a trauma we have collectively inflicted.
"You're white" and "you're overly privileged" and "that's why
you are where you are and should admit that." I've gotten that and I
continually have to come up against it, like if I try to talk about
politics...
Do you disagree?
It's not that I disagree or agree, but there are other ways of talking
about things that aren't in the form of a dialectic.
Perhaps not if you're white, male, privileged... some who cannot savor
the flavors of that position might not see it that way.
That's why I've gotten from others...
You can be a white male privileged being in academia and write essays
about the potential to decolonialize thought, or a disciplinary
language, but in order to enact it as praxis, to state that we simply
come together to convene with our already decolonialized minds, to act
as though the change has already taken place in the world, seems
irresponsible. The response-ability of considering the other seems
neglected in this sense, there's not an accurate appraisal of the
inability of others to take up such a position due to their continued
suffering under the artifacts of the modern condition. To take for
example Eduardo Viveiros de Castro's idea - not his, but which he
quotes from one of his anthropological forbearers - this concept of
perspectives I was reading about in Cannibal Metaphysics, a
proposition that we define ourselves by attempting a reversal of
perspective achieved through taking up the vantage of the other and that
we should recognize that we are always defining ourselves in relation.
Eduardo Kohn in that How Forests Think extends this to more extreme
limits, what I would call a revitalization of panpsychic stories and
animistic ideas of diffuse consciousness into plants and animals,
infusing the landscape with agency and a voice which lends awareness to
our own oration upon the ground of "the human." The human being's
understanding of human-ness arises out of relation to the puma-being,
roaming the forest as a greater-than-animal but not less-than-human,
simply an Other with a voice of its own. These epistemologies are
outlined as a multiplicity, so that every exposure to another culture of
beings (used in this loosened manner) is an opportunity to redefine our
own, as opposed to solidifying an idealized structure and projecting it
out upon the landscape, the quintessential colonial imperative, so that
"the sun never sets over the British Empire," or the Roman, or Nazi
Germany... that there is a singular empire unifying our reasonable
search for transcendent truth, that our civilization rests in the shade
of an ideological banner, regardless of space and time and (non-)persons
and territories and the nuances of cultural difference.
I get that sense, but the exact bridge that you used to go from
perspectivism to colonialism is a bit unclear to me...
Well what does it sound like for a black woman whom does not nurture a
particular interest in anthropological or philosophical radicalism to
hear an academically notated white man - not even to mention the
topology of privilege, concerning the complex social and economic
structures which we have been born into and how our local dialects
define social progress or cultural progressiveness... although I would
state that by being a white male you should take stock for your relative
ease of access to a black woman in this country.
I wouldn't even know how to respond to that to be honest. If you want o
have a conversation where we would have to agree on what all these words
mean, I doubt if it would even be possible, but if you want to have a
conversation where I take what you say and generalize it for the sake of
our conversational flow then we can, but that's the whole thing. When
you have an ideological conversation you can take a single instance,
even hypothetically, one that we both don't have any personal
experience with, no direct imprinting of the world, to try to evoke more
of the language of relational dynamics "no world to bring it out of
us," you can take a single situation and use it... say things like
"this company hired more men than women and so women are less
privileged in this country than men..."
I hear you, but this is not a hypothetical situation, and the question
is not rhetorical, but there are real stakes at play here, founded in
the daily lived reality of how this society functions, articulated
through the voices of numerous individuals whom share our territory,
whom exist here and now alongside us and that we both encounter every
day, but secondarily - the point I was trying to make in my correlation
earlier - concerning perspectivism, which I consider to be a rich
opportunity to extend our awareness to an abstract Other and attempt to
embody that which is beyond our comprehension in order to better observe
our own interests... to entertain the notion that the forest thinks or
the puma is a human and thereby expand our concept of humanity beyond
our own bodies - beings that do not resemble us that share in the same
pool of personhood - this seems absolutely essential.
I'm also fascinated by this idea...
So you can and should extend your awareness towards the other, not a
theoretical placard of deception perpetuating an ideological agenda, but
the real people whom cannot partake in the luxury of this conversation.
I'm not denying that poverty exists, or that people endure really
horrible situations, that there is every possible scenario on the
spectrum. It's not that I lack sympathy, for anyone or anything,
especially if it's in my world...
And I'm not accusing you of any of that either...
... but that's pertaining to the language, in questioning the forms
that the language takes, how it seems like it's not changing. Part of
the problem in "the debate" is that there's a space for the debate. A
problem with the lecture is that there's a lectern. Often I go to a
lecture and observe that the problems being discussed often seem to have
more to do with the proposed gathering in the first place, the dynamics
of the space for that talk, and how the talk seems like it's coming out
of the space as much as the space forms around it. I think that the
problem is in the presumption... that just because we use the same
words we are speaking the same language, in recognizing that talking
is... You can't just have a president on TV because it's still TV.
I can't vote by watching a TV show.
I can appreciate that, and I think you're right... like a meeting of
the Princeton Institute of Advanced study to direct the flow of
universal human rights, or a gathering of the intelligencia to discuss
the fate of third world peoples, of specialists (risking elitism)
assembling to pontificate problems and seek solutions behind closed
doors, is in itself a problem which denies its own limits by not
allowing outside forms, and I also think it's a problem of language,
but there's a difference between us using the same words and
misunderstanding each other and a situation where we are already
resigned to forever be bared from understanding as long as any form of
natural language forms the basis of that conversation and advocating for
the creation of a new language which cannot yet be uttered, or cannot be
referred to from within our doomed condition within the confines of
natural language, a very confusing and complex entangling of semiotics,
and as much as I want to entertain the possibility of speaking-through
new modes of speaking and thinking-through a more efficient or elegant
thought-form, this seems a profoundly privileged - and possibly
elitist - and certainly highly specialized intellectual pursuit which
bars others from access.
What is the intellectual pursuit?
The ruminations upon thinking itself, advanced philosophical
reflexivity, thinking about thinking and speaking about speaking,
semiotic contemplation, anthropological discursivity of the human in
order to propose a personhood beyond...
I think there's a type of person that is like that, but just because we
think thoughts with other thoughts doesn't equate thinking to a luxury,
that you have the space and the time to do so and everyone else that
doesn't make as much money is too busy making bricks or something...
Oh but I would say you're precisely wrong in that!
Even the brick maker has to think! The brick maker...
... does not have the luxury of time to rethink issues of identity or
semiotic utility precisely because they are too busy making bricks.
I think it depends on the person. There's brick makers that think all
they are doing is making bricks, and there's others that see that act
as more than just making bricks.
Show me such a brick maker! I would argue against that idealism,
although I gain no pleasure in doing so. I would refer us to
Heidegger's idea of "tool-being"... a barrel maker in the
countryside in rural Germany so invested in making the best possible
barrel, even to the point of philosophical perfection, and this comes to
define an identity. Through his tool mind he crafts a tool-being through
the barrel, that through crafting an object he comes to expand the
richness of his own life, to fill it with purpose through the relation
of function and action, just as the barrel enters into the relations of
the community and is filled with meaning through its use. There is no
need for philosophy with the barrel maker, as he is sutured directly to
existence through the crafting experience, lives an unquestioned
fullness of being and is... generally blissed out by being filled with
such purpose, by being free to exercise the will to make of himself and
his surroundings. The philosopher, in observing this process of
production, a voyeur on the sidelines, endures an alienation in being
removed from such a process and that removal is incompatible with the
making of the barrel.
I feel like that's why I feel such a direct relational kinship with
practice-based orientations. Philosophy was once held to be a surplus to
reality, of the thinking person removed from a relation of things, but I
don't believe that's the only way to think philosophically.
This is bound to the tradition of the bourgeoisie, of the fetishization
of the working class and mythological heroicism of the poor, of the
starving artist, ideal subjects who are not true subjects, of the slave
with purpose having a more meaningful existence than the master swimming
in wine and ennui all day...
But how often do you actually run into people like that?
I believe this is what is at stake in taking responsibility for our
privilege. These are rigorous academic pursuits of which you are a
specialist, upholding a position of exclusive access that will not be
made universally understood, in order to advocate for an incredibly
specific interlocution of potential, that exists at a particular
axis...
I don't feel much of a kinship with that, from my own personal
experience. I find myself in situations where that could have been a
possibility, but it has never been my tether to any place or time...
I've always been merely passing through... I feel as distanced to
that form of thinking as I do living here while not identifying as an
American, not in any immediate sense of the word and it's designation
of identity.
Yeah, but this is precisely the problem, that you exercise your
privilege... I mean I'm not trying to put the heat on you! But I am
trying to help you locate why such a thing would be problematic because
you are vocalizing, through your denial to internalize this dialogue or
assemble in the manner that society has come to recognize as proper in
maintaining a democratic and "free" procession of exchange... is to
function as a silent oppressor.
I know... I take pleasure out of continuing to create playgrounds out
of those obstacles. I feel a tremendous purpose in doing that, in
behaving in such a manner, in remembering that there are no presumptions
but only infinite possibilities in all of our roles as peoples, whomever
I'm hanging out with... there's more mystery to the ways societies
grow and merge and change. I can't allow myself to fully be subsumed by
that conversation, but that I must create a little piece of grit that
agitates the muscles to spin a pearl that I'm always more interested in
making...
... as is your privilege to do so. I would encourage you to do so. I
think your project, which is to say your life project, everything that
you are attempting and have and will, could be strengthened and made
more relevant and accessible to some if you were to take this head on
and locate yourself within it. I might even venture to say that your
project puts itself at risk of being subsumed by that very colonial mind
that it attempts to differentiate from... I just fear doing yourself a
disservice by not "getting dirty" in these other conversations.
It's not that I uphold a position of denial. I'm only 30 years old, I
barely have a grip and I'm still figuring out how to orient my being in
relation to other, but I do think that I must be careful about who I
talk to. I've noticed I can only talk about certain things to certain
people, that certain individuals have more of an inclination to unfurl
and contribute to a situation if... that different people have
different inclinations, so the type of conversation I'm having with you
I might not be able to have wit everyone - or anyone - else. The thing
that's still developing is my ability to attenuate these
differences...
....................
... no concerns for the theories of the world it seems like, but in
another way like a mother of them, a harsh mother of them, and where do
they come from? I've been trying to think about the relationship
language has to places like that, and finding rhetoric to dissolve in
granite and glacial ice, finding another kind of language there that
doesn't have... I feel like a lot of problems are reflections of the
environments from which they come.
I tend to think that the problems are not so bound to the place as much
to the language which articulates them, that the problems and their
potential solutions are contained within and transmitted by the natural
languages we speak them through. I'm curious to hear you say more about
what you see emerging from the granite, how the languages might abrade
or dissolve, what impediments...? What languages do you bring with you
that succumb to this erosion? Could we discuss that other language which
you are observing - the granite tongue or glacial syntax - could we
speak it now or does it only exist there? It is a language confined to
that place or can we bring it back with us, and can it be assimilated
into or translated into this language being abraded, so that those that
have not ventured to that place may come to understand it? To go one
step farther, would you say that the language of the granite or the
glacier - is it of the mountain or the territory, the latitude or
longitudinal coordinates, of the atmosphere where the sky meets the
earth, in the poetic sense or material sense or literal sense of these
terms - in whatever sense, is it in turn eroded or abraded here, by
this natural language we are using to speculate it's outside? How is
this place where we are now referred to then, as Oakland, as a city, a
civilization? We're talking about languages, but are we also discussing
urbanity? These book languages?
All wonderful tangents... I believe there's a clue in observing that
the root of "question" is "quest," something I really appreciate
about that word. There's a type of questioning which you are very
proficient in which is satisfied with the question itself - to begin and
end with questions - that brings the quest back in to the act of
questioning. The requirement of the quest, of asking questions, is very
exciting to think about and I can't help but feel a linkage between the
life of the city dweller and their use of technology in affording the
modern demand of convenience, and I can't help but feel as though the
histories and fields of inquiry that the people - dead and alive -
through which they wander through reveals a certain repulsion, that the
dwellers repel from that field of convenience because they recognize
that there is no growth there, no new abilities in that easy experience.
I don't want to create - something I've been wrestling with - I don't
want to dichotomize "wilderness" and "city," but there's something
about the convenience of cities and the disorientation of that other
place - not-city - that I find a polarity there. There seems to be a
surging desire to populate city space with things influenced by the
other place - which seems a more sufficient reference than
"wilderness." There's something there, concerning lack of convenience
and disorientation, which seems so suitable for human experience, so
nourishing for the thing that we are, for the act of pontification, for
the moment of philosophy, towards idea making and feeling articulation.
I was having a profound experience in the John Muir Wilderness recently,
encountering a boulder and seeing my friends face in it, and thinking
"how is this boulder facilitating the remembering of this person,
someone who has never been here before and has nothing to do with this
place, what is it about this environment - something in the shape or
forms - which facilitates such effluvial relational capacities?" I do
think all of those questions you bring up imply the necessity of
specificity, that it depends which place one goes to and spends time in,
it depends on what kind of city it is.
Two things that occur to me while listening to you: how our relations to
places, to worlds and worlding, shift and shiver when you make the
proposition that there is something inherent to the boulder which
instigates this response, where I tend to think - and tend to my
thinking - as always the boulder being a being only to the extent that
we may project out own being upon it. Not to steal away from the boulder
any possibility of its coming into its own agency - I mean I would
steal that away, but for the sake of this conversation it's not the
point I think - but what facilitates the formation of this face is a
projection of an identity encountered in your past experience, a
re-membering taking place at the location of the form of the boulder,
the boulder serving as site of your own reflexive activity, your mind
forming patterns upon its textured surface where there is no coherent
formalism, an illusion - I believe it's called apophenia. It's
difficult to call the boulder a being as it seems to be without body,
mostly uniform, only arbitrarily distinguished from the firma upon which
it sits - to expand the scale is to consider the whole mountain, or the
small pebble in the shoe, and are they each to be endowed with the same
agency? But again, I'm not trying to debate whether the landscape has
agency, but in order to define the boulder as such, to render it an
object, is to contain it's entirety, at least from one perspective,
within the entire field of view, to frame it within our being-oriented
scaled vision. The issue seems dependent on this scale orientation, a
procession of your self extending out like a plenum of experience
passing from body to body, so that the face you see projected upon the
body of the boulder is a relation to your own member, and the member in
your memory... remembering upon a boulder, not a boulder re-mamboing. I
recall a concept from American Minimalist sculpture, that the form
should be no larger than the width of the makers hands, or roughly the
height of the body, so that the scale of the body creates the idealized
scale of formal contemplation...
Idealized for this mapping procedure that takes place...
Yeah, because larger than that extend beyond the field of view and
smaller becomes to object-like...
In the case of the boulder I can see the occurrence of this mapping of
body to body, but I don't think that the mapping procedure is limited
to scale. Having a similar type of experience simply being in the place,
there's a couple things there that might be fun mentioning. There's a
word that ___ has been using, involution, and one of the
definitions of this word is "being brought back to one's proper
size." This word kept coming up for us in this place. Even though there
were some terrifying moments of being so vulnerable and fragile in this
hard glacial place, so easily lost - a quick angle change of the sun and
the entire landscape shifts - then "where'd the trail go?" The proper
size was so incredible for the vantage, that one has at this scale, is
so powerful, to see the entire landscape in stereo without compound
eyes, the vista that one can behold is as massive as the landscape, like
an extended physiology that brings one to doubt the rigid constraints of
their body. What seems so productive to conversations like this, in the
thought infrastructure that it seems we are exuding, one doesn't talk
about a thing we talk about everything in a particular way, not that
there is an idea about something but rather an idea about how to be
with things. This is an aspect which makes me feel like we could come
to laugh at these presumptions - of politics and race or whatever - and
render them irrelevant in favor of another way of feeling through the
world.
Another idea that comes to mind, to take it back to our earlier
conversation, is a little sound bite from Viverios de Castro which I can
try to paraphrase... in turning his focus back upon his own discipline
of anthropology and it's "natural language," the ethnographic agenda
of speaking a description of a people which are other, be it the forest
(in the case of Kohn) or a human tribe which populates it, this is the
anthropological voice which he is speaking, or speaking through, or is
speaking through him... so concerning the formation of a natural
language which can be deemed acceptable to anthropology should also
be one which is accepted by the people whom it describes. Castro
qualifies this acceptance further by stating that it should not be
comedic or absurd, or project any gross injustices, so that when the
people of the tribe (or whatever beings are being spoken) hear back the
scientists description of them they don't immediately dismiss it as
non-sense or beyond their sense, they entertain it as a possible image
of their identity or reflection of some semblance of being, and they
don't consider it laughable, don't endure distance from their
existence or the world through comedic alienation and enter into the
dramaturgy (and inevitable tragedy) aroused through
self-objectivization... and so - in my own interpretation - this use of
language may allow for a way out of sorts, as this renaturalized
language exercised through a revised ethics of consideration through
speaking does not purport to describe the people so thoroughly as to
steal away the possibility of their coming to know themselves... that
perhaps an ethics of anthropology is keeping open a back door for those
it aims to describe... so in terms of the experience you described, in
observing the emergent language of a landscape, there should be an
ethics involved emanating from you, or between us, emerging through the
journey penetrating the wilderness or this other place as you sense it
as other than you and it senses you in return, sensing and being sensed,
an ethics to sense the reciprocation of sense being exchanged, and I
see that originating from you as the observer, playing a role as the
anthropologist fascinated by emergent languages and hallucinating them
wherever you find yourself... How could we account for our ethics, our
response-ability, and allow this back door for nature to have the "last
word" in describing itself? This seems to me to be a release of the
ineffable, a loosening of the grip upon understanding to let it float
upon the breeze of poetics, an acceptable recognition of the unspeakable
as both horrifying, terrible and terror-full, as inherently intertwined
with sublime beauty before nature's power to create and destroy - all
of which are concepts firmly rooted within the Western gaze and
concerning the empirical subject, not necessarily transferrable beyond
that body... and we wouldn't want it to right? We want to avoid
projecting our inherited cultural terrors upon other beings.
Definitely yes. Also, there's something about the consideration that
one changes... next year we will have different ideas - that change is
the only constant - so through our idea-ing and thinking we incorporate
these ineffable spaces out of necessity, for any idea to have a trap
door and allow for new perspectives to flow in. It's not about
answering but questioning, to let the questions lead us through quests
of possibility.
Yes, that seems essential in practice, but I am so skeptical of the
implied essences flowing through matter. It's essential to remember,
to member (concepts into bodies) and re-member (the limits of our own
forms) actively, which seems to be what we are attending to through this
conversation, but to remain fluid also in locating and describing this
essence... which seems to oscillate between our positions and those
that we describe. I admit my reluctance to locate this essence in
things, to animate indeterminate objects...
I feel that too.
... but also refrain from completely explaining our world away through
reason alone, through the terrorizing machine of logic, to impose this
mechanical sensibility upon the world - the modern mechanical metaphor
no longer suits my vision or my expressive needs. So yet another model
must be discovered and adopted - we need a new ontology that can't be
limited by strict ontological articulation, a new anthropology that is
not limited to hominids, a new way of thinking and a new way of feeling
in relation to the other, a new other... to remove the concepts from
their pure idealistic pedestals and root them back in the body without
conceiving of this change as a diminishment of function, rather to
amplify their potentials, to follow their pulsations through nerves, not
just some invisible auratic discharge in the ether, in the clouds, in an
abstract mind, but in the molecular motions of those atmospheres, nested
within bodies which voice their own descriptions... but where the
limits of this survey are located I am less sure.
There's a sense that I get in the way that we discuss these things
which seems relevant. There's an element of satiation, of perhaps not
being fully satisfied, an indication that dynamics are suspended within
a pleasant geometry when the distribution is not totally satisfied. That
trap door thing... this weird space where we're not quite sure where
to go or what its filtering, what is being removed. I do get the sense
that when we're older there will be something so different, an
unfathomable unpredictable difference of considerations... there seems
to be a joy of in this unpredictability. Considering this notion of
being beyond the world we have inherited, not identifying with the
solidity of its description, of the crust and then the mantel and the
magma, the solidity of the simplicity of the description of the world as
a "beautiful project," and then the dismembering and disfiguration of
that solidity into the void free of myth as another beautiful work...
there's a worldview there, in the feeling of that beautiful progression
of humanity through those movements, which is as strong as the things
being described, that is so helpful and useful to remember. Yes, this
process is a beautiful thing, that the flora and fauna of the theories
being passed around are going through these different topological
stages, that there are different growths observable at various moments,
and then a forest fire will come and refigure the whole project, and
its not a system programmable towards harmony...
.............
It seems like people spend so much time making their ideas strong and I
wonder if it's ok for ideas to have weaknesses, weak spots, if a more
sustainable idea might be one that is allowed to be fragile in certain
parameters of its articulation.
Yes, fragile and tentative and vulnerable, tenacious - sounds like
Philip Beeseley.
He was using this word "fertility," which is intriguing... how the
sensory organs or just organs in general are the most fragile moist
holes into our beings, epitomizing sense by being sensitive to the
world, yet it seems like their carved and carpentered by a world which
is so traumatic and unpredictable and sudden.
Beeseley uses this image of sacrifice, a young child buried at a pivotal
axis, an epicenter at the base of a gate, the threshold orifice of the
city body, the point regulating the inside and outside of the human
world, and this baby laid delicately in the earth, under the fundament
of the wall - a description of architecture as the membrane between two
worlds - and this sacrifice is coddling itself, using this motion with
his hands to insinuate wrapping around the layers of the body, a body
embracing its own being... as an image essential to his project, an
incubatory coddling of a concept, a cerebral coddling perhaps... and
rather than a hominid intelligence or bipedal biological body, Beeseley
is more keen on articulating an amphibian nature, not so much a
terrestrial fate but a body emerging from the water while remaining wet.
The human being is formed through liquid, an amniotic water-born
creature... a certain sense that we are water people, considering the
ration of materiality, we are more water than anything else... I love
the idea that the sensory organs need to be wet.
And considering your point about the strength of one's argument, or
proposing that we allow for weakness in ideas... I might reframe it
within a different language. Yes, a tentative, tenacious, provisional,
and vulnerable proposition, but not necessarily weak, that a
reorientation to the parameters of this strength could consists of not
merely filling in holes for sake of argumentation but cultivating a
different quality of attention towards these holes, as portal flowing in
and out, orifices, permeable membranes engaged in maintaining a porosity
with the environment we are immersed within, of the material strength
focusing upon the diffusion of the member, to be more like dermis, skin
which expands and diffuses tension, contracts and condensates according
to the environmental changes...
I wonder where the word "weak" comes from, where it comes from and
where its roots are... I certainly think of it in consideration of
these spaces for the unfolding of the unfathomable, for the ineffable to
inhabit, which incorporates a trap door allowing for future growth, but
also a trap door to step out of when the shell is no longer useful, when
the shape changes and reveals cracks in the rigidity so we can step out
of the way of falling debris.
I tend to not consider our arguments - yours and mine and Beeseley's -
as the weak perspectives. I think of them as being much stronger, at
least potentially (although we are still young as you say), in embracing
amphibian formalism and recognizing the tensegrity of another
architecture not limited to the squares and circles of ancient Greek
idealism, but perhaps more of a rhombic, triangulated, helical
curvature, flexible and sensuous in its movements, less rigid in its
roots... that seems stronger to me, better equipped to sway with the
oceanic currents without being beaten upon the craggy shoreline...
A frothy foam, frothing concentration of bubbles...
... a porous bone filled with fluids which can bend and flex with the
tensions of the environment. Yes, so I sense a willingness for
vulnerability in Beeseley and others, but I can also locate holes in
these projects, which we can and should elucidate - with care and
attention. I think that we must help each other in this way, that this
is a greater response-ability than any other. We can aid each other in
thinking-through weakness and strength, to disperse the tensions through
a greater system... I'm thinking about kin, caring for others, not
merely sympathy but an active attending to others with great
sensitivity... one must succeed the firmness of their position in order
to allow the other to come in, to give them room to speak, to share
beyond our own limits... this doesn't feel abstract but sounds in fact
profoundly political to me.
It comes out of John Berger's idea of tenderness as being the first act
of liberty, something that perhaps we can only really begin discussing
if we make it to 95yo and are still able to be squirming around. He
describes the mode about tenderness towards one another as being the
first step towards freedom, as it is the only social behavior which
stems from choice, tenderness as being the only true choice that one can
make, as an individual exercising free will proven through exercising
tenderness in a world which considers such an action to be defiant.
An intention that one extends to kin.
...............
... it makes one endure a certain struggle. It asks so much of you just
to go, just to be there, that hope and success become so rooted in
direct experience that just making it through the night becomes a
success, being able to cross a treacherous moment in the hillside
becomes as successful as a political revolution, it's weird! It brings
one to their proper size, of being a terrestrial human being, which in
all honesty, compared to the place that we live our proper size is tiny.
But you're not out there naked and shiver. You're well stocked, well
provisioned.
Ideally.
It can be rough and extend your limits but they are still limits
expanded by the conveniences of civilization. I wonder where this place
is... referring back to what we were discussing before, is it a
physical place that you are describing now? Is the language of the
granite confined to a spot? I wonder if it's a particular landscape or
something on a scale of geo-history (ala Latour) or geo-politics or
geo-industry (ala DeLanda) or geo-temporality or -spatiality, not
opposed but juxtaposed to the human. The way that you're speaking now
reminds me of naturalists describing the periphery of civilization and
the necessity of escaping, going out into nature in order to attune or
retune, reacquaint to the spirit, to maintain a familiarity with a
natural spiritual force beyond human comprehension in order to instill a
humility, a piety to a force which keeps human hubris in check, a force
greater than our misguided human powers, and ultimately an exoneration
of the ultimate itself, be it named nature or god or any other name,
implying a giving up or giving over to pure magnitude, pure scale. But
I'm not trying to call that into question, but I do question "the
limit," our ability to locate the membrane separating where we are now
sitting from the other place where you have ventured. My experience is
not being able to go far enough, never locating that threshold, not
being able to identify the ends of the civilized world or the beginning
of the great undifferentiated wild. I can't go far enough to find a
nature which isn't already present, also and can't escape the imprint
of civilization upon my psyche.
Really? Have you tried? I can't tell if you're speaking literally. Are
you saying that you physically haven't gone into a place where you feel
free from the politics of humanity?
Yeah, I am saying that, and I admit that I haven't traveled as far as
you have - or really far at all - but perhaps because of that I feel
like I can articulate this problem, not without a certain sense of
awkwardness of course, but hopefully on behalf of would-be others whom
may also have difficulty locating such a boundary. I have gone quite
some distance... my journeys have taken me through many countries and
diverse ecologies, but still I feel as though I have never been beyond
the scope of humanity. I have been off the well-trod paths, but I can't
say that I've ever been truly lost - metaphorically speaking. I have
lost myself here at home, but never in any such manner as I could
uniquely allocate to the other place, never so thoroughly disentangled
myself from the world as to discover a new one that wasn't spawn from
my own imagination, not any more than a taste, a fleeting flavor which
feels like a hallucination of genetic memory perhaps. No place which has
disrupted my ontology in a manner more jarring that what I inflict upon
myself everyday, through these walks and talks for example... No escape
that felt more real, that didn't imply the inevitable return to the
self that I always in the process of describing, no voice orating from
without... ok, but it's not about the limits of my imagination or my
arbitrarily defined being so much as the possibility of even discussing
such a limit, which seems as absurd and necessary as the end which we
began with.
I hear you. This is an intriguing question. Is it right to try to
distill this place into a language? I don't know if it's even
possible, but I do know that one can have their linguistic faculties
influenced by a place, as a way to seduce others to come and experience
it for themselves. I remember this story about Theodor Roosevelt wanting
to speak with John Muir, back when there were few natural reserves and
when the idea of a National Park was percolating under the political
thoughts of that time, and John Muir said "yes you can come, but you
must come alone," and there's something to that. In order to have the
conversation in granite-glacial-speak you must go there and become
disoriented. You can't have the safety of the people that are here to
look after you. In order to get the thing that I have to offer, like
John Muir was saying, is for you to come here alone.
How do you reconcile that... is it reconcilable with the world that you
return to? What is the responsibility of returning to this world - the
one we currently inhabit, whatever this place is? Is this even a
useful question?
I think it's a great question which I can't pretend to have the answer
to but one that I think of often, and is one that I use to create more
questions with. Certainly optimism has something to do with it, a
reconfiguration of conventional ideology, of how we ideate through
relation, become affected which only becomes obvious when you come back.
I think about the venturing-into - through questing questions and
following the path to the other place - the images and languages, the
symbolism and the marking of paths orienting our orientations to
firmament, all of this built upon a certain knowledge garnered from
books, from human history or her-story or geo-stories, accumulated and
packed in to all the holes made less-than-whole. I can understand the
proposition of emergent potentials and intelligences or wisdoms,
intuited or unspoken or unspeakable, but I find it extremely difficult
to hold on to them as knowledge comprehendible and communicable to
others, to be shared and instilled with cultural meaning, to reconcile
my subjective experience with the inter-subjective ecology or world that
we are playing in.
Yes, and I question whether that is possible, and I think it is, and
once we get into our 60s we may find we are having a very different
level of articulations in regards to these points. What is happening now
seems to be - what we were discussing earlier - is learning not to talk
about the thing but learning to talk about everything else in a very
particular way, to approach and engage things differently. We can't
talk about this directly, but we can influence each other to approach
everything else with a different strategy, so that perhaps from a
certain perspective something will pop out of the middle, as a relief
pattern of contrast that emerges when we avert the gaze.
This sounds like negative theology... a theo-philosophical tradition of
defining god by his absence, and this is paradoxical to the presence you
are describing, maybe a parallax.
Hmm I like that word.
Yes, not just a mirroring inversion, the same thing split or doubled
through reversal or illusory reflection, but an inversion of the same
into itself, multiple parts which cannot be seen by looking directly but
which combine to form a more cohesive whole which can never be fully
contained within the field of view.
And also... it's an astronomers axiom, to look to the side of the star
that is being observed because the periphery is more sensitive.
Concerning parallax in relation to our attempt to vocalize this working
definition of nature or wilderness - the tricky thing with parallax is
that if you don't see all the steps within the procession of revolving
around a celestial object, it appears to jump cut, like a coarse edit,
and it becomes very difficult to figure out the continuity of
relations - potentially impossible to relate one side to the other -
unless you have the smooth perspectival sweep from one state to
another... something about that, whatever is happening with the
parallax phenomena, considering this resolution of what is being
observed, seems very useful.
Maybe that could serve as a description of the irreconcilable state of
the incommunicability of our subjective experience of time...?
Implicating the necessity of abstraction, of diagrammatic models, and
reductive processes in general, with parallax serving as a kind of
reductive description of a presence of creation, of a greater (than
human) meaning, of the potential of forming things from a void or making
entities animate, the transmutation from mere objects to vital
entities... a description of presence of the ineffable, synonymous with
or a kind of parallax to negative theology, defining god by an absence.
So I wonder then if this granite language should be discussed as
presence, or as an absence of this ineffable experience of/with/through
the other place which must be encountered first hand through solo
existential experience and cannot be transmuted through language, but
can only be indirectly referred to.
What other option is there? For me this makes so much sense. In order to
dance with the meaning of the world we cannot talk about it directly,
but we can seduce through the influence that was felt through the
spinning, seduce ourselves and each other, by talking about everything
else. If the person is listening they will listen not to the words but
the gesture from which the words emerge, the intuition and the love and
the heart, the worldview and the patience in all of its efforts that
have been put in to the thinking, the doing, the active being, and the
believing.
I don't disagree, and perhaps you're right that our natural language
should be reoriented towards this concession of direct address, but I
tend to think more and more these days that this gesture doesn't go far
enough. I wonder if we can go farther without it becoming violent,
without intruding upon momma bear's territory, if we can articulate
presence without perpetuating colonial terror.
I think you're right. I don't mean to say that it's enough, but that
it's fair enough, at the moment it's working for me at an approach to
others. This image of a sheath, of the transitional object, of a
child's blanket, the "bankie" as a sentient veil or externalized
consciousness... I keep thinking about this as an invisibility cloak.
Something I've been wrestling with through all of these grant proposals
concerns keeping something safe, keeping something hidden, which bring
me back to our prior point about keeping a hole for mystery, leaving a
space for the ineffable, the trap door for the universe to escape our
terrible definitions, which might also be a practice of restraint - to
not tell everybody where the ripening blackberry bushes are, because
that's a source of energy, a kind of wellspring which feeds you.
Except those that are initiated perhaps? Back to the beginning, when you
were stating that we must be careful who we speak to, in a certain
careful attentive manner, perhaps the parallax of Robert Irwin's
dialogue of immanence or the finger raised over the lips of the
Gnostic knower, keeper of the mystery, symbolically and literally
discouraging the secrets from being revealed. I think this is a strategy
for weeding out friends from enemies, or to be able to locate those
initiated and fluent enough to understand what is being spoken
indirectly, and at some point there seems to require an ontological
turn, not for the sake of a PhD dissertation or an art project or a
grant proposal, not for public consumption, but I am very aware of the
necessity of a dialogue of immanence conducted by those representatives
working at the periphery of their disciplines in working towards an
ontological articulation that is not always-already obsessed with its
own end through infinite regressive repetition of the trauma which
instigated the separation of disciplines in the first place. A new
statement of being, articulating an is--presence not merely
circumnavigating this place, not a continuation of the Roman project of
drawing lines around all the voids and inventing it a name - all
straight roads lead to Rome - building physical and metaphysical walls
which maintain the inaccessible void and perpetuate the visceral trauma
of our lack of departed spirit, depriving us of the substance of the
middle, fueling the modern project of alienation and all of its
horrifying semiotic mechanisms. The psychoanalytic description of the
inner lie spawning all the ideological canopies whose shade we will
never emerge from is not only profoundly unsatisfying, but an
insufficient description of our directly experienced potential of
existence.
I feel that also. Since I've been working on another PhD proposal I've
been ruminating over the possibility of a vocalized cosmological
perspective, and I feel like I can do it, and that we're involved with
something which is already akin to that, but I certainly don't feel
like it's ready for the world. I feel pretty firm in believing that it
won't be ready until I'm older...
Not that much older! You've come much farther than many seem willing to
risk.
Maybe...? But I won't feel comfortable espousing these ideas until
I'm in my 60s - the number doesn't matter, but until I have some
years, some experience...
I can get behind your scale and agree that all things worth doing take
time, and perhaps there is more to risk in revealing too much too soon,
but in terms of a collaborative bibliography with copious notes
scribbled in the margins, the creation of a clandestine forum for our
own mutual advancement, some place crafted and private... I wonder
about the necessity of risking dialogue and presence among peers and
extending it out tenaciously to entice and seduce other kin, to grow the
familial relations slowly and deliberately. To attempt the creation of
such a forum, even if it's acknowledged as an already failed
project...?
That seems to be going on, something similar... something intriguing
emerges when we begin to constellate the dithering perspectival pivots
that have taken place between us and our kin, when considered as a
constellate geometry of ideation - an ideological solar system. But
maybe I'm not grasping exactly what you're saying at the moment...?
I hear myself striving to put some pressure on a point that can elongate
to a meridian of a collective body, not to invent a new zero, but to
delineate a place between identifiable places that we can inhabit as a
collective body, to locate ourselves at a center of triangulated minds -
or constellated multi-mind - which doesn't belong to any one but
remains always-already a dispersal of tension, like the fascia of a
collectively reticulated corpus. Pouring into the center of a void still
circulating, a place that can only be defined peripherally, defined as
much by its absence as its vulnerable presence. I wonder about our
sharing in aligned, positive, affirmative propositions, of terminology
and vision, without succumbing to the influence of public displays of
strength. How do we bring forth a description of being while remaining
cynical towards the ontological project as an imposition of colonial
empiricism, within a public forum which can support our furthered
research? When and where is the praxis of our would-be philosophies?
When do they become enacted, beyond the mere rhetorical?
I feel like I must mention... there's an aspect to those last remarks
about empiricism where I fray, the ideas are fraying. I am not totally
sure if I can hang on to that conceptually - I lose the threads of the
fabric.
Can I ask what you mean by "fraying?"
Well I would have to ask you what you mean by empiricism...
Empirical knowledge are those (supposed) truth allocated from direct
observation and experience, trialed and proven evidence. It's true
because it has been observed to be so... which seems problematic to me,
just as much or more so than proposition based in pure intuited feeling
or unexamined affect. So... I exist ontologically - I am - because I
have a body and I feel my senses into being what they are and all that
is self-evident. You are ontologically real because I can touch you...
how such statements form the world we live in...
I see. Not colonial imperialism then, but scientific empiricism.
Yes. Well, interesting how they are related also, but I meant empirical
knowledge and the lineage of epistemology, knowledge of knowledge. I
think about how this is at odds with speculative philosophy and more
dynamic modes of thinking, encroaching upon the speculative realms of
animal intelligence from Donna Hardaway, of emergent mineral
intelligence from Ben Bratton, of amphibian states of mind and
architecture described by Philip Beeseley. This whole sub-genre of
interdisciplinary philosophy sprouting up around speculative materialism
and realisms...
Donna Haraway seems like a good example. In the 70s she and a small
group of likeminded people had the foresight to recognize Santa Cruz as
a hub of philosophical creative energy, a wellspring of communal
potential, and they bought land together as a place to write. They took
a risk, a small group of initiates that banded together to form a space
for their collective ongoings, and for her it was a place to write and
write quickly, to write books. There's a real practice-based necessity
to all this. Once you get the roof over your head, and all the economic
obstacles are overcome, the risk is settled with some foresight... for
them Santa Cruz clearly had the right spatio-temporal orientation, the
ecology, the weather, the biodiversity - those places exist in America
still, but they may imply a difficult adjustment, but it's a risk worth
taking.
That's a very provocative way of tying this ontological discourse into
our larger personal rumination upon the possibilities of acquiring some
land, aligning the life trajectory to better facilitate the life
pursuits, and it's incredibly appealing to me. I think this group you
mention - well both Haraway's and our own - implies a kind of contract
of engagement, to perpetuate self-conviction, and also to amplify the
response-ability to the other, specifically each other, to keep one
another mutually engaged, constantly be evaluating and attenuating the
path through direct influence, because four or six or eight eyes are
better than two! A fact of biology right? It's about conviction, to
convince each other as much as we convince ourselves.
Yes. In considering my personal cosmology I resonate with that sense of
conviction, to convince people of the importance of these pursuits,
especially those that are closest at hand.
So now, while we are young and immersed in this perpetually transitional
period with no end in sight but certainly a difference which can be
anticipated and speculated, it could be an opportunity to begin
practicing convincing each other of the necessity of seeking out such a
place, beyond the speculative, to make it real, to visualize or manifest
it, and to inhabit it, to take the risk of exploring what might take
place there, how it would look and how we might go about doing it, so as
the day approaches when action will become increasingly necessary -
economic and social actions, writing up contracts to maintain our
autonomy and security - we will have a conversation already underway
(which of course has been taking place over years now), but one
specifically concerning this praxis of presence, place, and purpose...
and poetry!
Part of the conviction, not just to convince each other but also myself,
to approach myself as an other... specifics are very convincing.
Considering various biomorphic places and what they have to offer - what
kind of trees, or is it prairies or mountains, and what do they have to
say? A specific place with its specific qualities, specific plants and
formations, specific distances to specific cities and the life which
could take place at those intersections, as well as possible relational
energies through collaborative projects of whomever is involved,
speculating on shared sources of income and sustenance... it seems like
an inevitability, but the textures and details of how it will unfold it
happening right now. The specifics are unfurling now, as we discuss it
and get excited and try to convince others about it, build camaraderie
around the eventual transition to another texture of living. There will
be a continuation of this conversation in the material world in some
way, not too long from now.